Without a Salary Cap in 2010...

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I think everyone understands how not having a salary cap ceiling could create a bidding war for the rich teams...and hurt the 49ers if they franchise Aubrayo Franklin. And, how not having a floor could give relief to the cash strapped teams. But, something I hadn't considered was discussed on one of the radio talk shows last weekend...teams could dump players with huge prorated bonus figures, and the impact would be zero. In other words, if the Washington Redskins suddenly realized that Albert Haynesworth wasn't worth it, they could cut him this offseason and the accelerated hit of his prorated signing bonus would be nil. In other words, no dead salary cap space counting against the cap. This is the year to get rid of Nate Clements (or Justin Smith, or Michael Lewis, or any player with a sizeable signing bonus) if the 49ers are inclined to do so, because it wouldn't negatively affect the cap.

Some teams who were forced to franchise players in the past could use this season as an opportunity to dump players who haven't lived up to their recent bonuses. See anyone out there on another team that you think might fit that scenario and could be waived and signed by the 49ers?

Tank you're absolutely right. It's going to be interesting to see who "wins" in all this - the players or the teams. I personally think the teams will have the upper hand, because there truly is no penalty for dumping a player now. For instance, Marc Bulger in St. Louis. They gave him way too much signing bonus money a couple years ago, and because of the cap, they had to keep him. Well now he's scheduled to make $10+ million in base salary this year. That won't happen, so he's either gone or forced to take a HUGE salary cut.

The same goes for Clements, IMO. We can all forget about the signing bonus money he got - that's paid for and no longer matters without the cap. The important number is the $6 mil (or whatever) he gets in base pay this year, and no way they're going to give him that. So now, if he won't renegotiate and take a significant pay cut, he's got to go into a VERY uncertain market to see what others think he's worth. IMO, if he and his agent are smart, they would realize that Singletary likes him, the Niners want him, and in the current environment it might be better to take the pay cut and stay where you're wanted.

I agree that there will be a bunch of players dumped, and there may be a lot of action by the "rich" teams. But I think even they are going to have to be kind of cautious, because who knows what next year and a new CBA brings. What if there's another salary cap then? So I would imagine that for the guys that do reach free agency (whether they are dumped or not), there will be a bunch of one-year offers and very few long-term arrangements. The uncertainty of this makes it unlikely that many teams are going to go crazy this year. But there could be some intriguing one-year possibilities that wouldn't ordinarily be available.

As for who? Well one possibility that might come available would be OJ Atogwe (safety) from the Rams. He was franchised last year, and it's hard to imagine that cash-strapped team wanting to give one player that much when they are truly in a rebuilding mode. The Rams will probably try to trade him first, and it might be worth it to see what it would take to get him (third rounder?) but then the Niners would have to pay him his "franchise" number, or sign him long-term. But this year, if the Rams get no solid trade offers, he might actually become available because of the lack of a cap. We'll see.

There has been talk about Reggie Bush being let go, there was some rumblings about Mcnabb, and like STLNiner said OJ Atogwe was also mentioned. Very interesting climate one that hasn't been seen in MANY years. The question is will the Niners be able to adapt?

For some reason I have this weird feeling some sort of deal will get done. The players are realizing more and more this isn't the utopia they were hoping it to be. The biggest problem might come down to the owners themselves agreeing to something. The rich owners like Jerry and Dan Snyder don't like sharing their money with the small market teams like the Jags and Bills. My gut says the fight between owner and owner will hold up the process much more than the players.

When it comes to the players a couple areas the owners are sure to win is a slotting schedule for draft picks similar to the NBA that seems like a no-brainier. Why wouldn't the NFLPA give that up? It doesn't affect any of their current members. It only pushes more money to the vets who deserve it. It's for sure an uncertain time, I am hoping they are able to figure something out. The NFL has a good thing running and although I will still buy it if it were to go away for a period of time, I am not the typical NFL fan. When you start to lose the average fan that's when the obscene amounts of money being made begins to dwindle.

I can't remember where, but I read that it's not a slam dunk that teams will be able to dump salaries with no cap ramifications. A number of owners want to put some rules in place to stop cap stricken teams from being able to cure all their cap headaches during a no cap season, when the cap might be back within one year. I'll try to find it and post it.

I hadn't heard or seen that WCG, that would be interesting if they could get something like that done. This whole thing is in such disarray and no one seems to know what could or will happen. That is going to make for a very interesting offseason, but it could also be a tough one for a team that feels it's on the cusp and just needs to make a couple significant moves. You just don't know what the long-term cost of any given move might be.